I just posted this in a forum, but it's way better as a blog post:
I've been on here for almost 2 1/2 years now. I joined Etsy right when chronic daily migraine forced me to drop out of "real" life.
Etsy, the economy, and migraines have a lot in common.
We think we know what causes them to fluctuate. We think we know how to control for these fluctuations. We work very hard at keeping our lives balanced and optimized to the best and most of what we want at the best and most of our abilities. Maybe we have control, maybe we don't. But dammit, we will take anything and everything we can as validation and reassurance along the way.
Now if you'll excuse me, I have a dairy, soy, nitrate, preservative, and gluten-free dinner to eat while I add this to my blog.
( http://jillhannah.blogspot.com
I wish I was kidding.)
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Saturday, April 10, 2010
Sunday, March 14, 2010
Globalized Business, Globalized Photo Props
Poking around on the Etsy forums again, I saw a thread from an Australian Etsian asking "How big is a dime?" (Spin-off thread on using props to show size can be found here.)
While the paint dries on our latest creations, we can sit at our computers and chat with people from every other continent on the planet. We simultaneously watch the sun rise and set during virtual lab critiques, turn to friends in another hemisphere when we need encouragement through our own difficult seasons, and find so much connection and familiarity in this enormous web of community and creation.
It's easy to forget that not everyone sees squirrels out their windows.
Uses a knife, fork, and spoon.
Buys ground beef and chicken by the pound and the rest of their meat in Spanglish.
Can prepare and eat an artichoke.
Thinks mailboxes are blue.
and money is green.
and a quarter is a coin.
and a dime is small.
I've been trying to photograph my Etsy items with related, universal-as-possible objects. I went on a salt and pepper rampage a few days ago. I'm not sure how helpful the salt and pepper piles are in terms of size, but it's a reference and it's better than US currency or (in my opinion) the ugly ruler photo many people take. I also used the salt and pepper containers from the store. How many countries get Morton Salt in a cylinder with a spout? I have no idea.
My rolling pins all got photographed with eggs in a bowl since that was the best I could come up with at the time.
Creativity and problem solving is a lot of what I like about the whole Etsy business thing, especially with the vintage shop.
What items are you trying to photograph in a way that demonstrates their sizes? What have you come up with in the past? Have any suggestions for anything in my shop? What is or isn't universal that surprises you in some way?
ART CREDITS: Mixing by nARTa available at narta.etsy.com
Irice Salt and pepper Shakers photographed by me and available at JillHannah.etsy.com
While the paint dries on our latest creations, we can sit at our computers and chat with people from every other continent on the planet. We simultaneously watch the sun rise and set during virtual lab critiques, turn to friends in another hemisphere when we need encouragement through our own difficult seasons, and find so much connection and familiarity in this enormous web of community and creation.It's easy to forget that not everyone sees squirrels out their windows.
Uses a knife, fork, and spoon.
Buys ground beef and chicken by the pound and the rest of their meat in Spanglish.
Can prepare and eat an artichoke.
Thinks mailboxes are blue.
and money is green.
and a quarter is a coin.
and a dime is small.
I've been trying to photograph my Etsy items with related, universal-as-possible objects. I went on a salt and pepper rampage a few days ago. I'm not sure how helpful the salt and pepper piles are in terms of size, but it's a reference and it's better than US currency or (in my opinion) the ugly ruler photo many people take. I also used the salt and pepper containers from the store. How many countries get Morton Salt in a cylinder with a spout? I have no idea.My rolling pins all got photographed with eggs in a bowl since that was the best I could come up with at the time.
Creativity and problem solving is a lot of what I like about the whole Etsy business thing, especially with the vintage shop.
What items are you trying to photograph in a way that demonstrates their sizes? What have you come up with in the past? Have any suggestions for anything in my shop? What is or isn't universal that surprises you in some way?
ART CREDITS: Mixing by nARTa available at narta.etsy.com
Irice Salt and pepper Shakers photographed by me and available at JillHannah.etsy.com
Tuesday, May 26, 2009
Nice Package
Talking about stamping the outsides of packages led me to thinking about how people package their items in general, so I started a forum thread on Etsy. It took off to 84 posts and counting and sparked my brilliant new plan for how to package my non-snarky card orders (like businesses and such who want the wallpaper enveloped thank-yous and whatnot). Photos to come...I want to keep the discussion going. When you buy something, does the packaging matter? What surrounds the immediate item? The actual container used for shipping? Should it be sturdy at a loss for pretty or pretty at a loss for ecology? Form over function? How about if you sell things, what do you do to make your package prettier? Does it match the style of what's inside the package and/or the rest of your shop? Branding, people.
Things to think about as I head to yet another neurologist for yet another possible approach to killing my migraines.
Mailing stickers by Donovan Beeson available for sale at donovanbeeson.etsy.com
Thursday, April 23, 2009
Econ 202: International Business Super-Duper Simplified
I just answered an Etsy forum post (yes, the movers are coming in an hour) and realized it should be an Econ-for-Etsy blog entry. Also, I need to make all these Econ-for-Etsy things into a book and sell it. Oh, EtsyLabs! Storque! Where's my advance?
From the forum:
My response:
No matter what country you are from, it's useful to keep in mind what other countries' goods are considered less expensive and where your currency has little value. People are more likely to buy from you if you are considered a "cheaper" country, but make sure shipping costs don't kill your prices. And if your currency is currently on top? Your fellow countrymen (and countrywomen) are more likely to pay top dollar for your products, so market locally and if somebody from elsewhere wants to pay for what you make, more power to them.
DISCLAIMER: This whole post is SUCH a generalization. There are perfectly fabulous ways to do business from any country, with any country. There are tons of complicating factors I'm not going into. But theses are some super-simplified basics to start. Feel free to yap about the various exceptions and other ideas in comments. Or ask questions. Or tell me I smell. I like comments.
From the forum:
talkingbeads says: Message from U.K. seller
I have just listed a Handbag charm and have priced it at $6 including postage. Is this a good price. Too High or Too Low? Advice Please x
My response:
1)Find out the REAL cost of mailing your items to various locations. You can include handling, etc, though if it gets too high compared to the cost of your item itself you may want to shift and up the charm's cost some to absorb the shipping so people don't freak out when they go to the checkout. Convert to US$. US$ suck right now compared to the pound. Cringe a lot when you see this.
2) Ask "what's the most someone would be willing to pay for this charm?" Try to remove yourself and your attachment to it and just think like a buyer. Convert to US$. Cringe a lot again and realize you're best off selling to other UK people and buying off US sellers because, as previously mentioned, the pound is killing the dollar. So is the euro.
3) Market your brains out. Probably to others on your side of the Atlantic because your shipping will be cheaper and exchange rates won't make your prices seem high so you can actually charge more.
I'm only half joking. US tends not to sell much to Mexico, but the US gets flooded with Mexican goods because of exchange rates and the relative cost of labor, etc. You can make value judgments about free trade and such all you want, but for Etsy sellers, it is what it is and we'll do best if we can understand the market and deal with it accordingly.
For me, the cost of shipping to the EU/UK may or may not be worth it for buyers from those countries to purchase my products. It might be worth a promotional blitz, it might not. Offering cards in Spanish and making a major push for more American business south of the US is probably NOT worth it for me, since the shipping costs will be higher AND the exchange rates mean most people would be willing to pay less.
Isn't economics FUN???
No matter what country you are from, it's useful to keep in mind what other countries' goods are considered less expensive and where your currency has little value. People are more likely to buy from you if you are considered a "cheaper" country, but make sure shipping costs don't kill your prices. And if your currency is currently on top? Your fellow countrymen (and countrywomen) are more likely to pay top dollar for your products, so market locally and if somebody from elsewhere wants to pay for what you make, more power to them.
DISCLAIMER: This whole post is SUCH a generalization. There are perfectly fabulous ways to do business from any country, with any country. There are tons of complicating factors I'm not going into. But theses are some super-simplified basics to start. Feel free to yap about the various exceptions and other ideas in comments. Or ask questions. Or tell me I smell. I like comments.
Saturday, April 4, 2009
Econ in Action: Barterer's Dilema, HSN Pricing
A few days ago I was cruising the Etsy forums (much like cruising for chicks, yeah baby) and came across the following:

BirdTrouble makes her bags when inspiration hits, not when they sell or to fill orders or repeats of identical bags. From the forum thread:
That being said, it puts her in the fish swimsuit maker category from my past economic example posts (don't worry if you haven't read them). She already made both the bag and the cosmetics pouch. She can never get back the time and materials she spent on them. They are sunk costs. Now, anything she gets for the bag and pouch is better than the bag and pouch just sitting there, and the goal is to get the most money possible in the least amount of time she's willing to wait.
She's priced the set at $38 for both pieces. Her customer is offering her a lower price (I don't know how much it was, let's say $25?) for just the bag. Now BirdTrouble has to ask herself if it's worth $25 now with the possibility of selling the pouch later, or if she'd rather take the risk of holding onto the set for the chance to sell them together for the full $38. It's a game show:
"BirdTrouble, you have already won $25 from the magic Etsy fishing pond. You can keep that $25, or throw it back for a chance to win $38!"
So what did she choose?
Neither. At the advice of some clever forum responders, BirdTrouble offered her customer a layaway plan to buy the set at the full $38 but over time.
In retail stores, layaway plans are usually a terrible idea for the customer. They involve fees and/or interest and customers always end up paying more in the end for the privilege of waiting to pay it. But in Etsyland, we have the power to make our plans more customer-friendly. In this situation, if BirdTrouble makes the full cost truly the $38 in four monthly installments of $9.50, then even though her customer gets to hold on to the extra money and the few cents it may accumulate in a savings account over that time, BirdTrouble is still way better off than she would have been at $25 or if it had taken more than a few weeks for another customer to buy the set at the full $38.
Thing we can all learn from the story and/or Home Shopping Network: TWELVE MONTHLY INSTALLMENTS OF $19.99! are much easier to swallow than $240, particularly in this lovely current economy of ours. Try offering a pricing plan on some of your more expensive items. But if you don't have a collections agency at your disposal, consider not sending the product until it's paid in full. Just a thought.
BirdTrouble says: A customer is saying they cant afford my bag but they really love it. I have it included with a cosmetic pouch for the total of $38. She's asking if she can buy the bag without the pouch.PERFECT econ example! BirdTrouble was kind enough to be my economic explanation guinea pig, so here goes!
I barly even included the pouch in that cost of the pouch in the price. Gahhhh I dont know what to do, I don't want to lose out on a customer but I dont wan't to sell myself short. What would you do?

BirdTrouble makes her bags when inspiration hits, not when they sell or to fill orders or repeats of identical bags. From the forum thread:
I make when I feel like making. Pouches are easy, bags are fun. It really comes to me when Im walking my stinky dog into the door from a walk and I'm like OH MAN that fabric would look awesome with this, WHERE IS THE PAPER!!!!This is not a bad thing. It's an artist thing and it brings us happiness and I do it all the time with many creative and some non-creative aspects of my own life. I'm not putting it down in any way.
That being said, it puts her in the fish swimsuit maker category from my past economic example posts (don't worry if you haven't read them). She already made both the bag and the cosmetics pouch. She can never get back the time and materials she spent on them. They are sunk costs. Now, anything she gets for the bag and pouch is better than the bag and pouch just sitting there, and the goal is to get the most money possible in the least amount of time she's willing to wait.
She's priced the set at $38 for both pieces. Her customer is offering her a lower price (I don't know how much it was, let's say $25?) for just the bag. Now BirdTrouble has to ask herself if it's worth $25 now with the possibility of selling the pouch later, or if she'd rather take the risk of holding onto the set for the chance to sell them together for the full $38. It's a game show:
"BirdTrouble, you have already won $25 from the magic Etsy fishing pond. You can keep that $25, or throw it back for a chance to win $38!"
So what did she choose?
Neither. At the advice of some clever forum responders, BirdTrouble offered her customer a layaway plan to buy the set at the full $38 but over time.
In retail stores, layaway plans are usually a terrible idea for the customer. They involve fees and/or interest and customers always end up paying more in the end for the privilege of waiting to pay it. But in Etsyland, we have the power to make our plans more customer-friendly. In this situation, if BirdTrouble makes the full cost truly the $38 in four monthly installments of $9.50, then even though her customer gets to hold on to the extra money and the few cents it may accumulate in a savings account over that time, BirdTrouble is still way better off than she would have been at $25 or if it had taken more than a few weeks for another customer to buy the set at the full $38.
Thing we can all learn from the story and/or Home Shopping Network: TWELVE MONTHLY INSTALLMENTS OF $19.99! are much easier to swallow than $240, particularly in this lovely current economy of ours. Try offering a pricing plan on some of your more expensive items. But if you don't have a collections agency at your disposal, consider not sending the product until it's paid in full. Just a thought.
Sunday, March 15, 2009
Hard Times: the economy and some quick suggestions
Yes, the economy is crap. We know. And while it's very cathartic to throw poop at the probable causes of our current meltdown, from a big picture pretend-you're-not-part-of-it-for-a-second standpoint, we were way overdue. "New economy" my ass. We were riding a huge bubble and it was awesome and then it burst and holy crap it hurts now that it burst, but while we try to eat our shoes for dinner, let's be realistic about our situation and make what we can out of what we have. That's what crafters and DIYers do, after all, no?
So!
Luxury is out except in very small quantities. If you make $500,000 chandeliers, you might want to work on switching your product line. Think like your buyers: when times are tough, the first things you stop buying are the things that you least "need."
Suggestion of the day, which I am giving away, free of charge:
Be a need!
To be a need, it helps to start off as a more practical product. Soap, children's clothing, dog collars, and chairs are all fairly easy to justify purchasing even when times are hard. But a little creativity can go a long way for making all sorts of things seem necessary; just think of how many people can't live without their daily lattes or Blackberries or personal trainers. Art can be a need because you need to fill that spot on the wall that you just can't fill with anything you currently own and it's turned into a hole in your life that eats away at you every time you look at it. (85% of my apartment is a spot on the wall that needs art, but I'm buying a condo soon and then it'll be a nice lifelong process filling it up! But I know many many people have that nagging wall space.) And if you're flexible about what you're making, try looking for a version of what you do that is considered more "necessary." If you work in glass or ceramics, try more practical but artfully minded cups and bowls and dishes and things instead of huge ornamental vases. You get the idea.
I'm pushing the business card sized envelopes because it's more important than ever that your particular business card get noticed instead of lost in the shuffle! I just started handing them out to Realtors because Realtors need them because the envelopes are wallpaper and that goes along with the whole buying and selling houses thing. Anybody in the handmade/crafting/arts world needs them becaues they are recycled/handmade and give your business card a memorable, beautiful and artistic presentation that won't soon be lost. Need need need need need!
In cases where the economic downturn means people are more likely to buy from Wal-Mart because handmade is pricey, you've got to market the message hard that handmade lasts and is higher quality so it's actually a better value. If shoppers are on Etsy and cruising handmade universe they already kind of know it, so drive that home right into their shopping carts. You need my product and you need to buy handmade.
I have more things poking about my brain, but that's enough for today.
POST SCRIPT: I started a "Be a NEED: why is your product a NEED?" thread on the Etsy forums as a sort of marketing exercise and people are writing in all kinds of fabulous creative stuff. Feel free to join in the conversation there or post your response in the comments.
So!
Luxury is out except in very small quantities. If you make $500,000 chandeliers, you might want to work on switching your product line. Think like your buyers: when times are tough, the first things you stop buying are the things that you least "need."
Suggestion of the day, which I am giving away, free of charge:
Be a need!
To be a need, it helps to start off as a more practical product. Soap, children's clothing, dog collars, and chairs are all fairly easy to justify purchasing even when times are hard. But a little creativity can go a long way for making all sorts of things seem necessary; just think of how many people can't live without their daily lattes or Blackberries or personal trainers. Art can be a need because you need to fill that spot on the wall that you just can't fill with anything you currently own and it's turned into a hole in your life that eats away at you every time you look at it. (85% of my apartment is a spot on the wall that needs art, but I'm buying a condo soon and then it'll be a nice lifelong process filling it up! But I know many many people have that nagging wall space.) And if you're flexible about what you're making, try looking for a version of what you do that is considered more "necessary." If you work in glass or ceramics, try more practical but artfully minded cups and bowls and dishes and things instead of huge ornamental vases. You get the idea.
I'm pushing the business card sized envelopes because it's more important than ever that your particular business card get noticed instead of lost in the shuffle! I just started handing them out to Realtors because Realtors need them because the envelopes are wallpaper and that goes along with the whole buying and selling houses thing. Anybody in the handmade/crafting/arts world needs them becaues they are recycled/handmade and give your business card a memorable, beautiful and artistic presentation that won't soon be lost. Need need need need need!
In cases where the economic downturn means people are more likely to buy from Wal-Mart because handmade is pricey, you've got to market the message hard that handmade lasts and is higher quality so it's actually a better value. If shoppers are on Etsy and cruising handmade universe they already kind of know it, so drive that home right into their shopping carts. You need my product and you need to buy handmade.
I have more things poking about my brain, but that's enough for today.
POST SCRIPT: I started a "Be a NEED: why is your product a NEED?" thread on the Etsy forums as a sort of marketing exercise and people are writing in all kinds of fabulous creative stuff. Feel free to join in the conversation there or post your response in the comments.
Sunday, November 2, 2008
Artistic Nudes
The big question of "mature" listings and "artistic nudes" and "I don't want to be slapped in the face with a giant cock"* is buzzing again in the Etsy forums.
LovingLee's original oil painting, mouth-watering and available on Etsy
When you list certain things on Etsy, you have to include the tag "mature" so that people who don't want to see explicit content can opt out of it in their searches, while others can look for it directly when they want the dirty shit fast.
Give it a minute. This go2girl trinket treasure box actually is a nude. Should it be labeled "mature?"
From the "Dos and Don'ts":
Others site famous works such as the Sistine Chapel, Venus De Milo, and DaVinci's Vertuvian Man, only to be reubuked by parents who wouldn't allow their children near such art (or any television, movies, or life experiences they deem unsuitable) until they are "older." The United States was founded by Puritains. Some days that's clearer than others.
My parents chose to raise me by awkwardly explaining everything related to sex and sexuality in the most scientific way possible. But they never hid art from me. We went to the Art Institute all the time. I was embarassed. I wish I hadn't been. I hope if I ever have kids, they will be aware that they need to stay covered in public places and that no one has a right to touch their private parts unless they say ok, but that there's nothing ugly or dirty about a breast, penis, or vagina. I still think breasts look like udders and vaginas are the grossest, ugliest things on the face of the earth, and I have these parts. I see them daily. I'm used to my own, but it's a damned shame that something that shouldn't be seen as vile or wrong so frequently turns my stomach or makes me giggle.
It's funny, but the "mature" items are actually the least mature way of looking at nudity.
Don't get me wrong. I'm all for immaturity. I sell cards with swear words and poop on them, for fuck's sake.

For whatever reason, more conservative parents tend to like the argument that they should be the ones to decide what's best for their children. I don't know why this sentiment doesn't echo at the other end of the spectrum, since a stronger governing body is more likely to push towards the middle of the bell curve, alienating both "No seeing skin below the neck until he's 18" and "If I want to buy my 5-year-old a lap dance, you can't tell me otherwise." But while right wing totalitarian governments should theoretically scare the crap out of the "libral"-minded, "states' rights" and "parents' rights" and what're basically the great great great (etc.) grand-children of the anti-federalists in the United States all seem to be the conservative right-wing element. When an ideology that should, in theory, spread out in a much less partisan way, goes flopping quite so significantly in one direction, it means one of two things. 1) The other side is totally missing the point/oppertunity/hysteria of the ideology and should really start checking out the Kool-Aid or 2) the ideology is being used as a front or an excuse and isn't tied to the cause at all.
I think slavery and gay marriage are #2s (states rights my ass). I think this may be closer to a #1, since I really believe this is all an issue of control. But what the hell do I know?
*Not QUITE a direct quote, but dear lord I wish it was.
LovingLee's original oil painting, mouth-watering and available on EtsyWhen you list certain things on Etsy, you have to include the tag "mature" so that people who don't want to see explicit content can opt out of it in their searches, while others can look for it directly when they want the dirty shit fast.
Give it a minute. This go2girl trinket treasure box actually is a nude. Should it be labeled "mature?"From the "Dos and Don'ts":
Some people are concerned that photos and other "artful" representations of things normally covered by bathing suits should not appear in the first photo of any listing. They don't want to be looking around at handmade mugs and jewelry and sweaters and then see a penis. They worry their children might be in the room when a boob appears on the screen.Mature content
- Mature content is defined as: sexual activity or content, profane language or graphic violence.
- Items containing mature content must be tagged "mature".
- The first thumbnail image should be kept appropriate for general audiences; additional images in the listing may show the item in its entirety.
- Artful representation of the nude human figure is allowed. The context of the nudity determines if it is a mature content item.
- Items are subject to review on a case-by-case basis. If Etsy evaluates the content to be mature, you will be asked to edit the listing to comply with these policies or remove the listing entirely.
Mature content listings will remain in all public searches by default; users can restrict results by using the exclusionary search term "NOT mature" ("opt-out" search status).
Others site famous works such as the Sistine Chapel, Venus De Milo, and DaVinci's Vertuvian Man, only to be reubuked by parents who wouldn't allow their children near such art (or any television, movies, or life experiences they deem unsuitable) until they are "older." The United States was founded by Puritains. Some days that's clearer than others.
My parents chose to raise me by awkwardly explaining everything related to sex and sexuality in the most scientific way possible. But they never hid art from me. We went to the Art Institute all the time. I was embarassed. I wish I hadn't been. I hope if I ever have kids, they will be aware that they need to stay covered in public places and that no one has a right to touch their private parts unless they say ok, but that there's nothing ugly or dirty about a breast, penis, or vagina. I still think breasts look like udders and vaginas are the grossest, ugliest things on the face of the earth, and I have these parts. I see them daily. I'm used to my own, but it's a damned shame that something that shouldn't be seen as vile or wrong so frequently turns my stomach or makes me giggle.
It's funny, but the "mature" items are actually the least mature way of looking at nudity.
Don't get me wrong. I'm all for immaturity. I sell cards with swear words and poop on them, for fuck's sake.

For whatever reason, more conservative parents tend to like the argument that they should be the ones to decide what's best for their children. I don't know why this sentiment doesn't echo at the other end of the spectrum, since a stronger governing body is more likely to push towards the middle of the bell curve, alienating both "No seeing skin below the neck until he's 18" and "If I want to buy my 5-year-old a lap dance, you can't tell me otherwise." But while right wing totalitarian governments should theoretically scare the crap out of the "libral"-minded, "states' rights" and "parents' rights" and what're basically the great great great (etc.) grand-children of the anti-federalists in the United States all seem to be the conservative right-wing element. When an ideology that should, in theory, spread out in a much less partisan way, goes flopping quite so significantly in one direction, it means one of two things. 1) The other side is totally missing the point/oppertunity/hysteria of the ideology and should really start checking out the Kool-Aid or 2) the ideology is being used as a front or an excuse and isn't tied to the cause at all.
I think slavery and gay marriage are #2s (states rights my ass). I think this may be closer to a #1, since I really believe this is all an issue of control. But what the hell do I know?
*Not QUITE a direct quote, but dear lord I wish it was.
Sunday, April 20, 2008
Making a difference
I was just poking through the Etsy gift guide and I saw TWO of my suggestions from the "gift guide suggestions" forum thread back to back! I feel so special. I am an arbiter of taste and a helper of friends. Observe:

For further JillHannah Fabulous Taste, check out my favorite sellers and items.


For further JillHannah Fabulous Taste, check out my favorite sellers and items.
Saturday, March 29, 2008
Human Treasure (awww)
I'm in another treasury, which is the inspiration for my current posting. This one was put together by one of my favorite Etsians, who is a buyer-only and quality human being. She actually won the card "treasured" on my contest thread.

My contest thread has been an entertaining thing unto itself. I stole the idea from DennisAnderson, who probably stole the idea from someone else, but the basic concept is "last person to post wins a prize." I added to that "every 1000th poster wins a prize, too," since I want people looking in my shop as much as possible, and my individual card costs are relatively low. I'm not sure how many sales have been a direct result of this little promotion, but the human connection element has been amazing! I never expected it to be so much fun! There's a handful of regular posters who are infinitely entertaining, plus random people who come and go to keep things fresh. Rumor has it admin locks threads once they hit 10,000 posts, and I have to decide if I'm going to start it up again. I'm hoping the answer will be obvious once we get to 10,000, but for now, I'm a big mush of ambivalence.
Time to turn things off and head to my friend's house for Earth Hour.

My contest thread has been an entertaining thing unto itself. I stole the idea from DennisAnderson, who probably stole the idea from someone else, but the basic concept is "last person to post wins a prize." I added to that "every 1000th poster wins a prize, too," since I want people looking in my shop as much as possible, and my individual card costs are relatively low. I'm not sure how many sales have been a direct result of this little promotion, but the human connection element has been amazing! I never expected it to be so much fun! There's a handful of regular posters who are infinitely entertaining, plus random people who come and go to keep things fresh. Rumor has it admin locks threads once they hit 10,000 posts, and I have to decide if I'm going to start it up again. I'm hoping the answer will be obvious once we get to 10,000, but for now, I'm a big mush of ambivalence.
Time to turn things off and head to my friend's house for Earth Hour.
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